You preach against anonymity despite using it to hide your mistakes when it's convenient.
I am not attempting to hide anything whatsoever. How many times must I apologize for something I don't even remember?
...for rewording a post without seeking your prior approval
"I did not accuse you of gross misconduct for editing my post without my permission. I accused you of gross misconduct for editing my post anonymously
...while deleting legitimate threads
Based on Ace Coder's rendition of what happened, no legitimate
threads were deleted: s/he asserts they were prime candidates for deletion. The issue here is documentation. If you omitted the documentation, it was intentional. If I omitted the documentation, it was accidental. The question is, "Is documentation helpful for the community?" Since documentation would have avoided this entire thread, I am even more convinced that it is helpful, and even more determined to document my activity if doing so precludes threads like this.
It became a public issue when jaco decided it was unnecessary to contact those involved privately and use the forums to express himself.
I'm confused by this. You raised the issue in this thread, so it was my
job to contact you privately about it?
if the mods can flame and troll...
Note that the only two mods in this discussion are Titan & myself, and we are not flaming and trolling each other. The name-calling by other members is unwarranted. I call on them to edit their own posts. Since some of them are senior members, I think they deserve that opportunity. Obscene posting by guests will be deleted (either by myself or another mod) so let that serve as my documentation for this entire thread. And this is one instance where I agree with Titan: I will not bother myself to document the removal of obscene material. Anyone posting such items forfeits their right to that common courtesy.
Since a few members have expressed concern over an argument between two moderators, let me make this perfectly clear. Any disagreement between myself and Titan in no way
diminishes his contributions to this forum: past, present, or future. Titan has done more for AHK than almost anyone involved; and that can never change, nor can my respect for those accomplishments. Anyone who believes we are flaming or trolling each other is mistaken.
Titan and I have a strong philosophical disagreement on moderating techniques that stretches back for over a year now. I think it is highly unlikely that either of us will ever agree with the other's point of view. On the other hand, I always believe that an argument can remain civil while the parties discuss actions and ideas rather than each other. This can be a fine line to walk at times, but I think neither Titan nor I have crossed it. We may despise each other’s point of view, but we are not afraid to debate it. I think an argument has the opportunity to be a learning experience for the community, and I see no reason to delete this. Many historical arguments remain on the forums, so the suggestion that this topic only remains due to moderator involvement is simply untrue.
Since I am well-versed in Titan's opinion, as he is with mine, I think it would be more beneficial in the future to see opinions from other users on the issue of moderating notes
. Rather than either of us attempting to speak for the community, I call on the community to raise their own voices: what are your thoughts on this issue?