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Re: users don't use code tags

by tidbit » 28 Jan 2018, 21:51

BoBo wrote:
jeeswg wrote:- Could we have a page that clearly shows how to use code tags. With images. And possibly some other helpful info for new/long-time users. ...
https://autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29007
As said, it might make sense to create/provide a tiny set of 30s video clips/tutorials created with a tool like :arrow: LICEcap to show the core features of the forum. :thumbup:

Something to have a look at, once this topic gets solved ...
[OT]Using the Tab key for indentation[/OT]

Are there any (AHK) BBCode editors you can recommend (especially the indentation feature would be of interest)??
apart from the above images, I too made a series of sarcastic/tidbit-esque/over-the-top but still very helpful and detailed interactive flash slideshows ("tidtorials") using http://www.debugmode.com/wink/
but the same issue... Those who need it won't find it. Those who don't need it will find it.

Re: users don't use code tags

by tidbit » 28 Jan 2018, 21:47

forever ago, back on the ancient forums, back when I still used XP (with bblean shell) like 8 years ago, I attempted to combat this very issue by making a series of images.
The issue with things like this and making tutorials...
Those who need it won't find it. Those who don't need it will find it.
At that point it's just easier to tell them to use code tags than to fetch a link for them to hopefully read.

ofcourse that's not true for 100% of visitors, but it's a battle that cannot be won. Many just don't want to read or put much effort into anything.

the images can be found here (imgur album)

Re: users don't use code tags

by BoBo » 24 Jan 2018, 01:33

jeeswg wrote:- Could we have a page that clearly shows how to use code tags. With images. And possibly some other helpful info for new/long-time users. ...
https://autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29007
As said, it might make sense to create/provide a tiny set of 30s video clips/tutorials created with a tool like :arrow: LICEcap to show the core features of the forum. :thumbup:

Something to have a look at, once this topic gets solved ...
[OT]Using the Tab key for indentation[/OT]

Are there any (AHK) BBCode editors you can recommend (especially the indentation feature would be of interest)??

Re: users don't use code tags

by derz00 » 23 Jan 2018, 14:58

jeeswg wrote: people will wonder why it doesn't work!
Sure enough. :problem: How profoundly unfortunate.

Re: users don't use code tags

by jeeswg » 23 Jan 2018, 14:54

- Thanks for sharing derz00. That's really good. However, I would warn that people will copy and paste that text, and wonder why it doesn't work!
- Similarly in Explorer, when you copy file datestamps from file property dialogs, it adds hidden characters in newer versions of Windows, which it didn't used to in the past. E.g. it does this on Windows 7.

Re: users don't use code tags

by derz00 » 23 Jan 2018, 14:47

Another option for demostrating code tags.

[cod​e][/code​]

[docs​][/docs]

Using a zero width space or 2. Very fascinating. waetherman shared these hotstrings with me one time.

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:?*:thsp;;::{U+2009}    ;thin space
:?*:0nbsp;;::{U+00a0}    ;zero width no-break space
:?*:nbsp;;::{U+00a0}    ;no-break space
:?*:0sp;;::{U+200b}    ;zero width space

Re: users don't use code tags

by jeeswg » 18 Jan 2018, 06:29

Ah, thanks so much Helgef, it didn't work for me because I was trying multi-line.
MsgBox

[docs]MsgBox
MsgBox[/docs]

[docs]MsgBox
[/docs]

[docs]
MsgBox[/docs]

[docs]hello
MsgBox
world[/docs]

[EDIT:] Tests with c and code tags:
MsgBox
MsgBox MsgBox
MsgBox
DirExist
ComObject
MsgBox

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MsgBox
MsgBox MsgBox
MsgBox
DirExist
ComObject
MsgBox

Re: users don't use code tags

by Helgef » 18 Jan 2018, 06:27

Thanks for that derz00, you need the space for [docs] though.
- What is the docs tag.
Eg,

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[c][docs]MsgBox[/docs][/c]
produces [docs]MsgBox[/docs]. More on the topic.

Cheers.
jeeswg wrote:Ah, thanks
np :wave:

Re: users don't use code tags

by derz00 » 17 Jan 2018, 11:07

It's not the space that's necessary: [code][/code]

Edit: except for

Re: users don't use code tags

by jeeswg » 17 Jan 2018, 02:44

- What is the docs tag.
- Re. 'Do as Helgef says'. It's OK to present tags with a space (something I've done before), but honestly, I think people need something even easier than that to get the message. Don't take chances with people understanding things.
- 'Disable BBCode'. Good call derz00. If you go to 'Full Editor & Preview', there is a 'Disable BBCode' option that you can untick.
- I would recommend that the BBCode guide also mention [c][ /c].
- I see things like '' in the old forum, which obviously isn't ideal, but with things like '[*:2dlkkj93]', what's odd is that the string is always different, it appears to be random.

- Also re. 'Do as Helgef says'. 'Those aren't the tags you're looking for'.

- @derz00: A good example of helping users to use code tags. Well done.
Script Writing Help - AutoHotkey Community
https://autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic ... 19#p194719

Re: users don't use code tags

by tank » 15 Jan 2018, 15:26

The bad form of grades and no way to reverse was the reason we abandon the old form

Re: users don't use code tags

by derz00 » 15 Jan 2018, 15:00

jeeswg wrote:- I'm still interested in the write literal code tags question btw, anyone.
Do as Helgef says, or use the "Disable BBCode" option.
- As we're talking about long-term problems being resolved. And since it's relevant to tags. Why on the old forums did you get things like this '[*:2dlkkj93]', e.g. here, thanks.
Class definition syntax for AutoHotkey - Page 2 - Offtopic - AutoHotkey Community
https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/6547 ... key/page-2
That is do to one or two or three forum conversions/overhauls that weren't well done, if I have it straight. tank would have more details if you want them.

Edit: Hmmm, that does sound nice of me, in hindsight :beard:

Re: users don't use code tags

by Helgef » 15 Jan 2018, 14:08

Other tags which make reading more pleasurable: [docs][ /docs], [c][ /c] [url=x]x[/url]
[EDIT:][BTW] Headlines can be made with [size=x][/size]

Cheers :angel:

Edit:
derz00 wrote: Do as Helgef says
I like that quote :lol:

Re: users don't use code tags

by jeeswg » 15 Jan 2018, 13:48

- HERE WE GO. Finally. Code. Tags.
AutoHotkey Community - BBCode guide
https://autohotkey.com/boards/faq.php?mode=bbcode#f2r1
- Images on AHK can be fiddly. And anything on GitHub can be fiddly. So I'd be tempted to wait until I get my website back up and running, which could be a few months.
- I'm still interested in the write literal code tags question btw, anyone.
- Actually I sort of half-implied the question in this thread, that was posted just after mine:
Where is the "BBCode Guide"? - AutoHotkey Community
https://autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42832
- As we're talking about long-term problems being resolved. And since it's relevant to tags. Why on the old forums did you get things like this '[*:2dlkkj93]', e.g. here, thanks.
Class definition syntax for AutoHotkey - Page 2 - Offtopic - AutoHotkey Community
https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/6547 ... key/page-2

[how to use code tags]
AutoHotkey Community - BBCode guide
https://autohotkey.com/boards/faq.php?mode=bbcode#f2r1

Re: users don't use code tags

by tank » 15 Jan 2018, 09:30

just write a github page

users don't use code tags

by jeeswg » 15 Jan 2018, 04:09

- Could we have a page that clearly shows how to use code tags. With images. And possibly some other helpful info for new/long-time users.
- I.e. every time someone omits code tags, I could just link them to that page.
- Also, is there a way to literally write code tags, without them becoming code tags? In order to demonstrate how to use them.
- Any info from here could also be used (or rewritten, or with bits added/removed, or not used at all):
Tips for using the forum. - AutoHotkey Community
https://autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29007

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