Post by CerpinTaxt » 28 Sep 2018, 23:52
I know this thread is old, but fwiw this dude in OP is clearly a troll. I've been hanging around the Discord starting about a week ago and while I can be snarky and outspoken at times, I haven't outright gotten into any other completely ridiculous nonsensical troll loops than with OP. I had a few, like, vaguely passionate discussions but those were always 2+ people with genuine disagreements. This dude was transparent in his repeated efforts to troll.
I thought briefly at first that maybe we just had differences of opinion but his demeanor pretty quickly became cliche troll behavior. Hearing about the interactions @nnnik had with him was enough to cement the fact in my mind.
This is his most frequently used smiley for crying out loud lol.
And when I say 'troll' I'm referring to the classic-internet sense of the word, i.e. saying purposely dumb stuff in an active attempt to piss somebody off or derail conversation to the point that the other party tells them to fuck off or whatever. Which of course is their goal because it launches them into the whole "Oh wow, so now you're doing the name-calling/insult thing, I never lashed out at you, this is uncalled for blah blah blah" shtick. Or start threads in which they put on their innocent victim face and try to sweetly play innocent and recount how they were treated so viciously. Basic color-by-numbers stuff tbh.
Here's a snippet showing when I was unmuted from the server. I was talking with another user before this so the text begins when OP first chimes in. As you can see it shows OP as a totally reasonable person trying to have conversation vs me (CerpinTaxt) being a troll who's not worthy of the most basic conversational response lol.
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[6:27 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: I know I missed the discussion, just wanted to leave an authoritative statement here, America indeed is the best.
[6:28 AM] CerpinTaxt: only the best people
[6:28 AM] CerpinTaxt: All the best, smartest people.
[6:28 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: One of possible voting solutions is: leave the system, improve the participants. Meaning: educate people.
[6:28 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You could also improve the system to fit the participants
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: Christ, now I need to rethink my views if they match up with this guy
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: Actually
[6:29 AM] Cap'n Odin: he is joking
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: Both of your opinions rely on a premise that I don't necessarily adhere to
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: That people can be fixed
[6:30 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: fixed? I'm not saying they're broken
[6:30 AM] CerpinTaxt: That's not an implicit truth
[6:30 AM] CerpinTaxt: I am
[6:30 AM] Cap'n Odin: I am not assuming people can be fixed, but the system sure can
[6:30 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You can improve people, it surely requires a subjective view on them
[6:30 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Because improvement means making something/someone better
[6:31 AM] CerpinTaxt: These past few years have sucked that optimism out of me, I don't care any more
[6:31 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: and good, better, the best, bad, worse, the worst, are the ultimate subjective words, it seems to me
[6:32 AM] CerpinTaxt: I think the rise of the human race is an incredible event but I don't think they'll make it a whole further
[6:32 AM] ozzhates: wow survival mode?
[6:32 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Rise human race?
[6:32 AM] ozzhates: plz fall humans!
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: The problems we face today are the same problems we've faced in every generation since human civilization began on any significant scale
[6:33 AM] ozzhates: large group of dumpb ppl?
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: Hatred over skin color, religion, gender, politics
[6:33 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Isn't it an exaggeration again?
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: No
[6:33 AM] Cap'n Odin: I don't intend to fall
[6:33 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: yes, it is
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: Nope.
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: if you think that the world didn't improve considerably from the times of holy wars in medieval times
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Sorry, but you really think anyone will believe you're not a troll? :smile:
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Please name the times in which the human race didn't face the issues of racism, religious killing, gender, or politics.
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Please name 1 single timespan
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Not only you keep saying various variants of the Sun being black, but you keep saying it's an undisputable fact :smile:
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Just one. No sidetracking, just one.
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: I'll name something much more useful for you
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Just name a single one.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Nope.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Name one period of time.
[6:35 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: False dilemma.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Nope.
[6:35 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Read about it
[6:35 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It answers your question, in a way.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: You said my statement was an exaggeration.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: You only have to name one time to prove me wrong.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Just one single period of time out of all of human history.
[6:36 AM] CerpinTaxt: Oh, you can't? You mean you're just saying shit? Wow, shocking.
[6:36 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You are saying shit
[6:36 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: you keep doing it
[6:36 AM] CerpinTaxt: :wink:
[6:36 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: you say idiot statements, and I'm very respectful to you for calling it trolling
[6:37 AM] CerpinTaxt: You said I was wrong. You have to name a single time period to prove it.
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Yes, the thing is, I can't prove it to you.
[6:37 AM] CerpinTaxt: Are you going to continue to say things that aren't a single span of time?
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It's not how people like you work.
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It's like playing Chess with a pidgeon
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You can't win
[6:38 AM] CerpinTaxt: Then stop butting into my conversations.
[6:38 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: No
[6:38 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You can ask people to talk with you on DMs
[6:38 AM] CerpinTaxt: Okay, or do continue butting into my conversations and then being a pissy baby when I engage
[6:38 AM] ozzhates:
Cap'n OdinToday at 9:33 AM
I don't intend to fall
[6:39 AM] ozzhates: adds him to his list
[6:39 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: I don't know what you mean by a pissy baby, but from the sound of it, you describe your attitude
[6:39 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You behave like a baby
[6:39 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: As I said before, you behave like a spoiled brat.
[6:40 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: All those immature statements of yours, like "oh, you don't swear, you're probably a weirdo!"
[6:40 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It's so pathetic
[6:40 AM] CerpinTaxt: You said I was wrong. I asked you to say 1 simple fact to prove me wrong. You then talk in circles and waffle on and attempt distractions instead of just addressing the conversation. I've tried about a dozen times in the past 5 minutes to stick to the conversation.
[6:40 AM] CerpinTaxt: How the fuck are you a staff member?
[6:41 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: .tag grow up
[6:41 AM] BOTAce: Behave like a man, bitch.
[6:41 AM] CerpinTaxt: You realize I've talked with people like @AlexChaplinskikh and @Cap'n Odin about several things we disagree on several times and it's always perfectly reasonable?
[6:42 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Perfectly reasonable? :hehe:
[6:42 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: What, what. What's up?
[6:42 AM] CerpinTaxt: Yes?
[6:42 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You exaggerate again, man
[6:42 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Is this about fighting about something or other again?
[6:43 AM] CerpinTaxt: You think this happens in a conversation with anybody but you ? *screenshot of Weatherdude's messages from 6:39*
[6:43 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Yea, he got mad and started pinging people :stuck_out_tongue:
[6:43 AM] CerpinTaxt: Yeah I was pinging people who disagree with me frequently
[6:43 AM] Cap'n Odin: @ozzhates hit list ?
[6:43 AM] CerpinTaxt: And who I somehow don't get dragged into these retarded ass slap fights with
[6:43 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: @CerpinTaxt Want me to find out the first statement in which you were rude to me? Let's make a bet, I'll do so. If you can find a statement that I was rude to you before it, I won't ban you.
[6:44 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Hm... In my opinion it's OK to argue about stuff as long as it doesn't come to personal attacks.
[6:44 AM] CerpinTaxt: lol blow me
[6:44 AM] CerpinTaxt: ban me dude
[6:44 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: OK, if you ask...
[6:44 AM] CerpinTaxt: prick
[6:44 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Once you get so riled up you can't see that you're attacking someone, then it's the end of the conversation.
[6:45 AM] Dixon: @AlexChaplinskikh who you refering to?
[6:45 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Well, I'll agree that Cerpin has a "difficult" personality to deal with, at least.
[6:45 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: .mute @CerpinTaxt
[6:45 AM] BOTAce: @CerpinTaxt muted.
So while folks like this are a dime a dozen in internet communities, I guess I'm confused about how this dude is running the AutoHotkey official (?) Discord?
I know this thread is old, but fwiw this dude in OP is clearly a troll. I've been hanging around the Discord starting about a week ago and while I can be snarky and outspoken at times, I haven't outright gotten into any other completely ridiculous nonsensical troll loops than with OP. I had a few, like, vaguely passionate discussions but those were always 2+ people with genuine disagreements. This dude was transparent in his repeated efforts to troll.
I thought briefly at first that maybe we just had differences of opinion but his demeanor pretty quickly became cliche troll behavior. Hearing about the interactions @nnnik had with him was enough to cement the fact in my mind. [url=https://i.imgur.com/VJlzagX.png]This is his most frequently used smiley for crying out loud lol.[/url]
And when I say 'troll' I'm referring to the classic-internet sense of the word, i.e. saying purposely dumb stuff in an active attempt to piss somebody off or derail conversation to the point that the other party tells them to fuck off or whatever. Which of course is their goal because it launches them into the whole "Oh wow, so now you're doing the name-calling/insult thing, I never lashed out at you, this is uncalled for blah blah blah" shtick. Or start threads in which they put on their innocent victim face and try to sweetly play innocent and recount how they were treated so viciously. Basic color-by-numbers stuff tbh.
Here's a snippet showing when I was unmuted from the server. I was talking with another user before this so the text begins when OP first chimes in. As you can see it shows OP as a totally reasonable person trying to have conversation vs me (CerpinTaxt) being a troll who's not worthy of the most basic conversational response lol.
[code][6:27 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: I know I missed the discussion, just wanted to leave an authoritative statement here, America indeed is the best.
[6:28 AM] CerpinTaxt: only the best people
[6:28 AM] CerpinTaxt: All the best, smartest people.
[6:28 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: One of possible voting solutions is: leave the system, improve the participants. Meaning: educate people.
[6:28 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You could also improve the system to fit the participants
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: Christ, now I need to rethink my views if they match up with this guy
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: Actually
[6:29 AM] Cap'n Odin: he is joking
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: Both of your opinions rely on a premise that I don't necessarily adhere to
[6:29 AM] CerpinTaxt: That people can be fixed
[6:30 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: fixed? I'm not saying they're broken
[6:30 AM] CerpinTaxt: That's not an implicit truth
[6:30 AM] CerpinTaxt: I am
[6:30 AM] Cap'n Odin: I am not assuming people can be fixed, but the system sure can
[6:30 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You can improve people, it surely requires a subjective view on them
[6:30 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Because improvement means making something/someone better
[6:31 AM] CerpinTaxt: These past few years have sucked that optimism out of me, I don't care any more
[6:31 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: and good, better, the best, bad, worse, the worst, are the ultimate subjective words, it seems to me
[6:32 AM] CerpinTaxt: I think the rise of the human race is an incredible event but I don't think they'll make it a whole further
[6:32 AM] ozzhates: wow survival mode?
[6:32 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Rise human race?
[6:32 AM] ozzhates: plz fall humans!
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: The problems we face today are the same problems we've faced in every generation since human civilization began on any significant scale
[6:33 AM] ozzhates: large group of dumpb ppl?
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: Hatred over skin color, religion, gender, politics
[6:33 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Isn't it an exaggeration again?
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: No
[6:33 AM] Cap'n Odin: I don't intend to fall
[6:33 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: yes, it is
[6:33 AM] CerpinTaxt: Nope.
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: if you think that the world didn't improve considerably from the times of holy wars in medieval times
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Sorry, but you really think anyone will believe you're not a troll? :smile:
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Please name the times in which the human race didn't face the issues of racism, religious killing, gender, or politics.
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Please name 1 single timespan
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Not only you keep saying various variants of the Sun being black, but you keep saying it's an undisputable fact :smile:
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Just one. No sidetracking, just one.
[6:34 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: I'll name something much more useful for you
[6:34 AM] CerpinTaxt: Just name a single one.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Nope.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Name one period of time.
[6:35 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: False dilemma.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Nope.
[6:35 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Read about it
[6:35 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It answers your question, in a way.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: You said my statement was an exaggeration.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: You only have to name one time to prove me wrong.
[6:35 AM] CerpinTaxt: Just one single period of time out of all of human history.
[6:36 AM] CerpinTaxt: Oh, you can't? You mean you're just saying shit? Wow, shocking.
[6:36 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You are saying shit
[6:36 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: you keep doing it
[6:36 AM] CerpinTaxt: :wink:
[6:36 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: you say idiot statements, and I'm very respectful to you for calling it trolling
[6:37 AM] CerpinTaxt: You said I was wrong. You have to name a single time period to prove it.
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Yes, the thing is, I can't prove it to you.
[6:37 AM] CerpinTaxt: Are you going to continue to say things that aren't a single span of time?
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It's not how people like you work.
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It's like playing Chess with a pidgeon
[6:37 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You can't win
[6:38 AM] CerpinTaxt: Then stop butting into my conversations.
[6:38 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: No
[6:38 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You can ask people to talk with you on DMs
[6:38 AM] CerpinTaxt: Okay, or do continue butting into my conversations and then being a pissy baby when I engage
[6:38 AM] ozzhates:
Cap'n OdinToday at 9:33 AM
I don't intend to fall
[6:39 AM] ozzhates: adds him to his list
[6:39 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: I don't know what you mean by a pissy baby, but from the sound of it, you describe your attitude
[6:39 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You behave like a baby
[6:39 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: As I said before, you behave like a spoiled brat.
[6:40 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: All those immature statements of yours, like "oh, you don't swear, you're probably a weirdo!"
[6:40 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: It's so pathetic
[6:40 AM] CerpinTaxt: You said I was wrong. I asked you to say 1 simple fact to prove me wrong. You then talk in circles and waffle on and attempt distractions instead of just addressing the conversation. I've tried about a dozen times in the past 5 minutes to stick to the conversation.
[6:40 AM] CerpinTaxt: How the fuck are you a staff member?
[6:41 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: .tag grow up
[6:41 AM] BOTAce: Behave like a man, bitch.
[6:41 AM] CerpinTaxt: You realize I've talked with people like @AlexChaplinskikh and @Cap'n Odin about several things we disagree on several times and it's always perfectly reasonable?
[6:42 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Perfectly reasonable? :hehe:
[6:42 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: What, what. What's up?
[6:42 AM] CerpinTaxt: Yes?
[6:42 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: You exaggerate again, man
[6:42 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Is this about fighting about something or other again?
[6:43 AM] CerpinTaxt: You think this happens in a conversation with anybody but you ? *screenshot of Weatherdude's messages from 6:39*
[6:43 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: Yea, he got mad and started pinging people :stuck_out_tongue:
[6:43 AM] CerpinTaxt: Yeah I was pinging people who disagree with me frequently
[6:43 AM] Cap'n Odin: @ozzhates hit list ?
[6:43 AM] CerpinTaxt: And who I somehow don't get dragged into these retarded ass slap fights with
[6:43 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: @CerpinTaxt Want me to find out the first statement in which you were rude to me? Let's make a bet, I'll do so. If you can find a statement that I was rude to you before it, I won't ban you.
[6:44 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Hm... In my opinion it's OK to argue about stuff as long as it doesn't come to personal attacks.
[6:44 AM] CerpinTaxt: lol blow me
[6:44 AM] CerpinTaxt: ban me dude
[6:44 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: OK, if you ask...
[6:44 AM] CerpinTaxt: prick
[6:44 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Once you get so riled up you can't see that you're attacking someone, then it's the end of the conversation.
[6:45 AM] Dixon: @AlexChaplinskikh who you refering to?
[6:45 AM] AlexChaplinskikh: Well, I'll agree that Cerpin has a "difficult" personality to deal with, at least.
[6:45 AM] WÆTHERDUDE: .mute @CerpinTaxt
[6:45 AM] BOTAce: @CerpinTaxt muted.[/code]
So while folks like this are a dime a dozen in internet communities, I guess I'm confused about how this dude is running the AutoHotkey official (?) Discord?